Session Start: Sat Sep 13 13:57:54 2008
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[14:01] <ustreamer-63680> look at you guys!
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[14:02] <ustreamer-12841> Hey, Looking good!
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[14:03] <+hamrad> 3..2..1..showtime
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[14:04] <+adam-slc> levels are pretty good
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[14:04] <+adam-slc> give steve more
[14:04] <+hamrad> need more steve
[14:05] <+hamrad> good
[14:05] <+adam-slc> yea pretty good steve
[14:05] <ustreamer-12841> Yes
[14:05] <+tomy-n> yup
[14:05] <+able101> good
[14:05] <+flatlandbear> yes
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[14:06] <+slickee> push buttons ryan till you get the right one :)
[14:06] <+ryno1> somebody give Steve a Philly jersey!
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[14:08] <ustreamer-12841> How do you get to the chat?
[14:08] <+adam-slc> your in it
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[14:09] <ustreamer-12841> I notice some of you have name tags as opposed to ustreamer numbers.
[14:09] <+adam-slc> are they ALL using macs or just Steve & Keith?
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[14:10] <+adam-slc> if you sign-up with ustream.tv you can have a name tag also :)
[14:10] <ustreamer-12841> Got it!
01[14:10] <@rjnsmith> Just Steve & Keith using Mac's. 
[14:11] <+ryno1> start downloading now!
[14:12] <+slickee> if you start getting HD content really goes up
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[14:13] <+tomy-n> for the future: how to setup a virtual machine & whats reqiured
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[14:15] <+adam-slc> web hosts have had different levels of bandwith available for their customers to choose from
[14:15] <+adam-slc> I would bet Comcast will do the same
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[14:16] <+Eldrlwyr> Agree, adam-slc.
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[14:17] <@miketechshow> tony we will address this as a question
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01[14:17] <@rjnsmith> It sucks, Since we have Verizon, we don't get any sports games on CN8. 
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[14:17] <+Eldrlwyr> Try RCN?
[14:17] <+Eldrlwyr> $ goes to $!
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[14:18] <+Eldrlwyr> Comcast says that Verizon and DirectTV are the competition!
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[14:23] <+LarryGri> The copper is irrelevent.  Once you have fios you can not go back unless some one buys it.
[14:24] <+Eldrlwyr> LarryGri: can you explain that?
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[14:25] <+adam-slc> wow
[14:25] <+adam-slc> I would keep the two unrelated, lol
[14:25] <+able101> you must report it
[14:25] <+citizenX> ZIs he required to report it since he IS a police officer?
[14:25] <+citizenX> If he is .. yeah there is an issue
[14:25] <+Eldrlwyr> you are a cop 24/7 whatever!
[14:25] <+LarryGri> Verizon will not ever use the old copper that they leave behind.
[14:26] <+adam-slc> I wouldnt advertise Im a cop/pc technician
[14:26] <+citizenX> I think cops arre cops 24/7
[14:26] <+LarryGri> you can not go back to the wires of old.
[14:26] <+adam-slc> but he does have even more of a responsibility to report it as another career obligates him too
[14:26] <+NewBritG> it is his civic and moral duty to report
[14:26] <+Eldrlwyr> LarryGri: thanks.
[14:26] <+citizenX> civic duty not the question.. prob is he is an officer
[14:27] <+citizenX> is he obligated as an officer to report the activity?
[14:27] <+Eldrlwyr> yes!
[14:27] <+adam-slc> I would guess yes also
[14:27] <+adam-slc> althogh Im no lawyer
[14:27] <+citizenX> so he needs to say up front he is an officer
[14:27] <+adam-slc> why?
[14:28] <+citizenX> prevents entrapment
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[14:28] <+adam-slc> do you agree eldrlwyr?
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[14:28] <+Eldrlwyr> Not probable cause but what is in plain sight in the automobile.
[14:28] <+citizenX> (I can see why steve saved this question)
01[14:28] <@rjnsmith> I don't think he should say he is a police office. 
[14:29] <+citizenX> I think he should just in case there is illegal activity
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[14:29] <+adam-slc> I concur with steve on that
[14:29] <+citizenX> otherwise it can be considered entrapment
01[14:29] <@rjnsmith> I agree with Steve. 
[14:29] <+Eldrlwyr> I am not convinced it is entrapment.
[14:29] <+adam-slc> every pc technician/civilian should report child pornography
[14:29] <+NewBritG> moral duty
[14:30] <+citizenX> I am thinking about the rights of the PC owner
[14:30] <+adam-slc> right
01[14:30] <@rjnsmith> Yes, if he finds something, then he should say hes a cop.
[14:30] <+Eldrlwyr> I would think the officer would say to customer - get rid of this.
[14:30] <+citizenX> after he finds it?
[14:30] <+adam-slc> thats IF he arrests them
[14:30] <+slickee> According to Scott Moulton interviews for working on pcs many states must get a PI license soon
[14:30] <+tomy-n> ageed, howard
[14:31] <+LarryGri> hierarchy of criminal behavior
[14:31] <+tomy-n> *agreed
[14:31] <+able101> state of WV if a tech finds it child porn you must report it
[14:31] <+Eldrlwyr> These are great topics for my legal podcast.
01[14:31] <@rjnsmith> What is your podcast?
[14:31] <+NewBritG> when is the legal podcast starting? or has it started?
[14:31] <+LarryGri> I have found plenty of <censored> but fortunatel no child <censored>.
[14:31] <+Eldrlwyr> It is a work in progress, I will anounce on Steve's program.
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[14:32] <+Eldrlwyr> I need to work out the technical stuff.
[14:33] <+NewBritG> howard is that you?
[14:33] <+citizenX> oy vey
[14:34] <+hamrad> Question:  What is the maximum lenght you run a network cable from a home router to a PC?
[14:34] <+Eldrlwyr> Yep.  Did you check out the SBDC,
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[14:34] <+tomy-n> 300 ft max
[14:34] <+adam-slc> hamrad its 300ft on all cat5e
[14:34] <+NewBritG> Yes i did.  Made an appointment online.  Waiting for them to get back to me.  Thanks again for your help
[14:34] <@miketechshow> hamrad - i got the question
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[14:34] <+tomy-n> more exact, 90 meters
[14:34] <+Eldrlwyr> NewBritG - anytime.
[14:35] <+techguybob1> What's up Philly Tech Guys!
[14:35] <+citizenX> Hey Bob
[14:35] <+Eldrlwyr> Hi techguybob1 - did you get my article?
[14:35] <+techguybob1> Hi Barb
[14:35] <+techguybob1> Hi EldrLwyr: I think I did.. I need to check real quick
01[14:35] <@rjnsmith> I hate Websence, my schools always used it, and it blocked almost every website.
[14:36] <+hamrad> Followup question:  Can you over load a router with too many PC?  I have 6 pcs connected to my router and when I download podcast one of the other computers get locked out and the router has to be rebooted
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06[14:36] * +techguybob1 is the "ugly side of IT"
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[14:36] <+LarryGri> What is the brand of the router and who supplied it?
[14:36] <+citizenX> digital forensics is big NOW
[14:37] <+hamrad> linksys
[14:37] <+adam-slc> some ISPs limit the amount of simultaneous connections
[14:37] <+adam-slc> as far as how many files may be downloaded at once
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[14:37] <+adam-slc> or streamed at once
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[14:37] <+LarryGri> behind a router that should not be an issue.
[14:37] <+tomy-n> hamrad : each port off the router "should" accept a max of 3 switches
[14:37] <+NewBritG> has anyone discussed the Asus eee PC?
[14:37] <+hamrad> linksys connect to my isp internet cable box
[14:38] <+citizenX> good to hear Mike
[14:38] <+LarryGri> I have an actiontec router from Verizon Fios and it has issues but I have over 10 machines at one time and no lock out
[14:38] <+adam-slc> I have embarq/sprint here at the shop and can only simultaneously download 2 files at a time
[14:38] <+hamrad> i have 4 direct connections and 2 wireless (not all running at the same time)
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[14:39] <+techguybob1> Eldrlwyr: Can you sned me the article again?
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[14:39] <+adam-slc> question: does the panel use or recommend the use of a terms&conditions/disclaimer for their clients to sign upon arrival (onsite) or upon sign-in (drop-off)
[14:39] <+techguybob1> Larry: 10 machines?
[14:40] <+LarryGri> I know, it is crazy and I don't type fast enough to explain.
[14:40] <+Eldrlwyr> adam-slc: good question.
[14:40] <+LarryGri> You should see my electic bill
[14:41] <+LarryGri> hamrad Have you updated the firmware on the Linksys?
[14:41] <+adam-slc> run seatools on it
[14:41] <+LarryGri> 6 machines should be a breeze
[14:42] <+adam-slc> quicktechpro has a great hdd diagnostic tool also
[14:42] <ustreamer-12841> Put a know good hard drive in and install.
[14:42] <+techguybob1> Larry: One of those Portable generators is probably looking good about now :-)
[14:42] <+LarryGri> Solar or wind looks good too.
[14:42] <+adam-slc> even chkdsk is a good start for him
[14:42] <+tomy-n> WD has got one also
01[14:42] <@rjnsmith> Giveaway of the Day looks good today. 
[14:43] <+techguybob1> Larry: LOL
[14:43] <+techguybob1> RJ: I agree with the Giveaway of the day today
[14:43] <+adam-slc> RJ:what are you refering to, giveaway?
01[14:43] <@rjnsmith> I'm going to download it after the show.
[14:43] <ustreamer-12841> You will know for sure if you try to install with a know good hard drive!
01[14:43] <@rjnsmith> www.giveawayoftheday.com
01[14:43] <@rjnsmith> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/avs-video-editor/
[14:43] <+adam-slc> ty
[14:44] <+adam-slc> my question (again): does the panel use or recommend the use of a terms&conditions/disclaimer for their clients to sign upon arrival (onsite) or upon sign-in (drop-off)
[14:44] <+adam-slc> download VMWare
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[14:44] <+tomy-n> personal
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[14:44] <+tomy-n> XP
[14:45] <@miketechshow> Tony I will take the XP side of the question
[14:45] <+techguybob1> Adam: I can only give my opinion.. But that sounds like an excellent idea
[14:45] <+adam-slc> windows virtual server is another choice Tomy
[14:45] <+tomy-n> do you need a licence for the host AND the virtual?
[14:46] <+adam-slc> MSFT is starting to encroach of VMware's popularity
[14:46] <+hamrad> msft?
[14:46] <+adam-slc> well tomy, for instance if you were to install windows xp onto the VM you need the license key for the install
[14:47] <+adam-slc> so I would say yes to licensing
[14:47] <+tomy-n> thank you
[14:47] <+adam-slc> hamrad, msft =microsoft.
[14:47] <+techguybob1> msft=microsoft
[14:47] <+adam-slc> they have a Virtual Server app
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[14:47] <+adam-slc> as good as if not better than VMware
[14:47] <+hamrad> thanks
[14:47] <+adam-slc> great for setting up labs with hosts and clients
[14:48] <+adam-slc> MSFT also hosts different labs on their site that are downloadable
[14:48] <+techguybob1> Adam: you mean the Virtual Labs that Microsoft offers?
[14:49] <+adam-slc> not exactly
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[14:49] <+tomy-n> thanks, guys
[14:49] <+techguybob1> ?
[14:50] <+techguybob1> 1 meter = 3 feet ?
[14:50] <+slickee> quemu has Kquemu I think that has more gnu
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[14:50] <+hamrad> It would only be 50 feet
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[14:50] <+LarryGri> 3 feet 3 inchs is appox 1 meter
[14:50] <+techguybob1> I was close
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[14:51] <+hamrad> no, it is a linksys
[14:51] <+adam-slc> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/virtualserver/downloads/default.mspx
[14:51] <+adam-slc> ^ re: virtual machine software from msft
[14:52] <+techguybob1> Adam: Cool! Thanks for the link 
[14:52] <+LarryGri> Linksys is a good router and of the all the brands I have used it is the best.
[14:52] <ustreamer-12841> Net Meter free download
[14:53] <+hamrad> I am using Net Meter on all the computers
[14:53] <+techguybob1> 12841: Do you have the URL for NEt Meter?
[14:53] <+adam-slc> FYI:I use the latest linksys N router, however my ISP doesnt allow any computer on the network to simultaneously DL files more than 2 at a time
[14:53] <+ryno1> but you need a hub
[14:53] <ustreamer-12841> Google net meter
[14:53] <+ryno1> not a switch
[14:54] <+adam-slc> my question (again): does the panel use or recommend the use of a terms&conditions/disclaimer for their clients to sign upon arrival (onsite) or upon sign-in (drop-off)
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[14:54] <+adam-slc> lol
[14:54] <ustreamer-12841> The newest residential gateway routers are just swithes.
[14:54] <+techguybob1> Old Skool rocks!
[14:54] <+shaulov3> do you guy like nintendo
[14:54] <+LarryGri> Mike I have a one port router in my basement...Hamrad is it  switch?
[14:55] <+hamrad> could it be the nic card in the computer that gets locked out?
[14:55] <+ryno1> yes nintendo
[14:55] <+techguybob1> Adam: Your question si getting answered Yea!
[14:55] <+adam-slc> ty sir
[14:55] <+Eldrlwyr> AHHHH!!!!!!!!
[14:55] <+adam-slc> lol
[14:55] <+LarryGri> a bad nic will give you the symtoms you mentioned.
[14:56] <+Eldrlwyr> AHHHHHHHH! SAY IT AIN'T SO STEVE!
01[14:56] <@rjnsmith> haha
[14:56] <+techguybob1> LOL.. oh My!
[14:56] <+Eldrlwyr> Steve...oh no
[14:56] <+adam-slc> I want inclusions for limited liabiltiy on data loss, profit loss, loss of use of equipment etc
[14:56] <+citizenX> well Howard .. he never made you sing anything...LOL
[14:56] <+citizenX> *sign
[14:56] <+techguybob1> Even I know that is bad!
[14:56] <+hamrad> thanks everyone
[14:56] <+NewBritG> steve you in trouble
[14:56] <@podnutzdaily> don't tell on me!
[14:56] <+shaulov3> do you guys like nintendo
[14:56] <+techguybob1> adam: good thoughts.. I am writing that down for reference
[14:57] <@podnutzdaily> all that legal mumbo jombo
[14:57] <+LarryGri> Steve do you have an accountant?
[14:57] <+citizenX> Steve see if you cannot find a form online you can use
[14:57] <@podnutzdaily> no
[14:57] <+Eldrlwyr> Steve - I will get something to you to post to everyone.
[14:57] <+techguybob1> Podnutz: That Legal stuff could sav eyou Butt sometime
[14:57] <+shaulov3> what do you guys think about gameing companys
[14:57] <@podnutzdaily> thanks howard
[14:57] <+NewBritG> technible computer package has forms
[14:57] <@podnutzdaily> i thought so new brit
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[14:57] <+adam-slc> ooo non disclosure, nice Mike
[14:57] <+adam-slc> didnt think of that
[14:57] <@podnutzdaily> i'll check out technibble
[14:58] <+citizenX> yes NewBritG .. but a terms and conditions?
[14:58] <+NewBritG> don king
[14:58] <+Eldrlwyr> Don King
[14:58] <+citizenX> they have good checklists but not sure about t&c
[14:58] <@podnutzdaily> ok
[14:58] <+NewBritG> yes citizen x- i believe so.,  there are a ton of forms
[14:58] <+citizenX> worth a heck
[14:58] <+citizenX> check
[14:58] <+tomy-n> http://www.technibble.com/products/computer-business-kit/
[14:59] <+citizenX> ty NewBrit G
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[15:00] <+Eldrlwyr> Be careful as each State has different laws about these things.
[15:00] <+adam-slc> if you buy them from technibble, make sure you read them first lol
[15:00] <+tomy-n> got start somewhere, howard
[15:00] <+techguybob1> Adam: How can you read them first?
[15:00] <+Eldrlwyr> I know, that is why I will get something to Steve to post.
[15:00] <+adam-slc> I've got a friend in the biz for nearly a decade with absolutely no t&c or disclaimer on liability
[15:01] <+citizenX> Steve never stated he was not learning as he went... 
[15:01] <+adam-slc> Another company in biz for the same amount of time locally, has an entire page of disclaimer
[15:01] <+citizenX> SO he gets some good advice today
[15:01] <+citizenX> :)
[15:01] <+adam-slc> bob: you gotta buy em first, but Im saying become familiar with them before you enact them to your clients
[15:01] <+Eldrlwyr> You also do not want to scare the customer away with a pile of disclaimers.
[15:01] <+techguybob1> Adam: i see.. I understand
[15:01] <+adam-slc> so you know whats included and what your side of the bargain is, so it can be explained if necessary
[15:02] <+techguybob1> Adam: you are so right
[15:02] <+adam-slc> lwyr: exactly
[15:02] <+tomy-n> always learning, Barb. it should never stop... learning that is
[15:02] <+citizenX> definately
[15:02] <+Eldrlwyr> PA has a plain language law which requires things like font size and "readability"
[15:02] <+techguybob1> I agree
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[15:03] <+Eldrlwyr> I have had to litigate one of these prepackaged forms because of ambiguous language in the document.
[15:03] <+guyute4220> it's their fault for not backing it up
[15:03] <+techguybob1> Everyone needs to backup their data
[15:04] <+techguybob1> cover your @$$
[15:04] <+adam-slc> question: what new hardware/software does the panel bring with them to on-site service calls to have on-hand incase the client needs it
[15:04] <+adam-slc> followup to steve: what do you make absolutely sure you have instock in your store
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[15:06] <+NewBritG> i swear by super antispyware!!!!!!!!!
[15:06] <@podnutzdaily> not much adam. 
[15:06] <+adam-slc> more specifically to sell or replace (hardware wise) as opposed to tools
[15:06] <@podnutzdaily> i don't like to stock a lot
[15:06] <@podnutzdaily> i'll talk about it if we have time.
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[15:07] <+techguybob1> I don't throw away parts either..
[15:07] <+techguybob1> but I would charge
[15:07] <+NewBritG> technibble showed a picture of his computer repair kit
[15:07] <+adam-slc> same here bob and mike :)
[15:08] <+adam-slc> If a customer calls and says I have internet problems, I bring a new NIC & router as an example. This way I dont have to travel back to the store
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[15:08] <+adam-slc> I guess my situation is different, as I have a storefront as well
[15:09] <+techguybob1> MIke: Do you service residential users or just bsuinesses?
[15:09] <@miketechshow> Both
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[15:09] <+techguybob1> Mike: what is your rate for home users?
[15:10] <@miketechshow> $75/hr
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[15:10] <+techguybob1> Mike: how about businesses?
[15:10] <@miketechshow> Buisness $125/hr
[15:10] <+adam-slc> I stock HDDs, Memory, power supplies, nics, modems, antivirus software etc. So that I can be read for onsite customers and provide/upsell in store customers with upgrades immediately
[15:10] <+adam-slc> basically, all the everyday parts
[15:10] <+techguybob1> Mike: Thanks you very much..I am trying ot foigure out what the going rate is so I can charge the same amount
[15:10] <+adam-slc> note a good idea, if you want to avoid overhead
[15:11] <+adam-slc> not*
[15:11] <@miketechshow> It depends on the area
[15:11] <+techguybob1> adamL what is the URl of your store's site?
[15:12] <@miketechshow> Norteast is higher prices
[15:12] <@miketechshow> northeast
[15:12] <+adam-slc> thanks guys!
[15:12] <+techguybob1> Mike: I used to charge like #20-30 for the "ENTIRE" Job.. Big Boo Boo!
[15:12] <+techguybob1> #=$
[15:12] <+hamrad> good show guys
[15:12] <+adam-slc> Very nice show for the 'first' go!
[15:12] <+guyute4220> go birds
[15:12] <+adam-slc> bad bob bad!
[15:13] <+ryno1> it's not the first go adam
[15:13] <+adam-slc> second?
[15:13] <+adam-slc> lol
[15:13] <+ryno1> yes
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[15:13] <+techguybob1> Adam: I know.. And I used to wonde why people took advantag eof me.. Geez
[15:13] <+adam-slc> i missed the first one and heard something bout a failed attempt
[15:13] <+techguybob1> I cna hang aorund if anyone wants to chat with me :-)
[15:14] <@miketechshow> we will hang out for a bit
[15:14] <+guyute4220> if you have a pc you failed right away even without java
[15:15] <+adam-slc> bob: Im looking for a pro webdesigner, but in the interim I'm using wordpress doing it on my own starting last week
[15:15] <+adam-slc> www.southlakecomputers.com
[15:15] <+adam-slc> dont poke fun ;)
[15:15] <+slickee> seems okay but for some reason Opera would not let me type in ubuntu but ff will
[15:15] <+techguybob1> Thanks for the link Adam
[15:15] <+slickee> In steves chat that is
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[15:16] <+hamrad> good job by Ryan too
[15:16] <+adam-slc> steve: are you going to stick with wordpress for philly techguys?
[15:16] <+slickee> good show
[15:16] <+adam-slc> agreed ^
[15:16] <@podnutzdaily> don't know yet adam
[15:16] <+techguybob1> Good work GUys!
[15:16] <+adam-slc> I need a hand with more advanced wordpress applications
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[15:17] <+adam-slc> *still streaming btw*
[15:17] <+adam-slc> lol
[15:17] <+hamrad> steve, can you list those software tools you use, I couldn't keep up with you?
[15:17] <+ryno1> they said they were going to keep streaming 
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[15:17] <+adam-slc> oh well than, carryon :)
[15:17] <+slickee> Beeeeeeeeeeer
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[15:18] <+ryno1> booze
[15:18] <+NewBritG> steve did you ever give away the leaf blower?
[15:18] <+guyute4220> wordpress is a web design copout
[15:18] <+adam-slc> i agree guy, but its too easyto ignore
[15:18] <+techguybob1> Adam: The live traffic feed on your site is awesome!
[15:19] <+adam-slc> thanks trying to find out if Im getting the local area to the site or if Im getting nationwide 'stragglers'
[15:19] <+ryno1> what is your website adam?
[15:19] <@podnutzdaily> hamrad,  i list them in an episode of podnutz daily - can't remember
[15:19] <+tomy-n> ? about virtual: if i understand this right, load VMware & then install XP with a differant CD code than the Host. is that correct?
[15:19] <+ryno1> correct
[15:19] <+hamrad> where they in the show notes?
[15:19] <+ryno1> cd code = cd key
[15:19] <+techguybob1> Adam: I am a straggler.. LOL
[15:19] <+adam-slc> ryno: mynewbie wordpress site is: www.southlakecomputers.com
[15:20] <+adam-slc> just started it this week, so not makin fun :)
[15:20] <+citizenX> hamrad: I lined to a google document listing steves cleanup routine and the software
[15:20] <+tomy-n> thanks ryno
[15:20] <+citizenX> *linked
[15:20] <+ryno1> beer!
[15:20] <+citizenX> it is the very first link of the daily
[15:20] <+citizenX> not sure what number
[15:20] <+ryno1> what is it with sys admin's and soda?
[15:20] <+LarryGri> Sam adams Octoberfest rules
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[15:20] <+hamrad> citizenx, super I will go look for it
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[15:21] <+guyute4220> that's cool, are you guys based in phili
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[15:21] <+LarryGri> they need caffine
[15:21] <+waqii> what do you guys work with?
06[15:21] * +techguybob1 has too much free time
[15:21] <+ryno1> *slap*
[15:21] <+ryno1> didn't work
[15:21] <+adam-slc> lol wrong chat
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[15:22] <+citizenX> me too tech guy I like helping these shows.. by working in the background
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[15:22] <+NewBritG> citizen x are the shownotes up to date for podnutz daily?
[15:22] <+adam-slc> i want to start a local podcast now! damn you guys!
[15:22] <+citizenX> just missing Fridays show
[15:22] <+adam-slc> i have too many projects
[15:22] <+techguybob1> Adam: you shouod go for it..
[15:22] <+citizenX> it is done though have to post
[15:22] <+techguybob1> I want to get a podcast started too
[15:23] <+slickee> Mike the Village People = star on walk of fame today
[15:23] <+ryno1> you had up to 50
[15:23] <+guyute4220> i can make you a logo
[15:23] <+techguybob1> yes to the front page
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[15:24] <+techguybob1> Oh this sucks.. LOL
[15:24] <+techguybob1> ROFLMAO
[15:24] <+adam-slc> guy: make me a logo?
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[15:25] <+guyute4220> no the guys on the show said they needed a logo for their stream pic
[15:25] <+adam-slc> oo right
[15:25] <+adam-slc> im sure they'd appreciate that
[15:26] <+techguybob1> WOW
[15:26] <+techguybob1> That is so cool@
[15:26] <+techguybob1> Mike's rep is on the line.. LOL
[15:26] <+citizenX> when was this?
[15:26] <+citizenX> ustream kinda breaking up
[15:27] <+techguybob1> Things will never be the same
[15:28] <+slickee> this last thursday X
[15:28] <+citizenX> ty slickee
[15:30] <+techguybob1> I think all of you guys are doing a great Job!
[15:30] <+adam-slc> i wonder if any of their customers are listeners also
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[15:30] <+tomy-n> you will never "please them all"
[15:30] <+techguybob1> i think each podcaster has to do what they fel is right for them
[15:31] <+hamrad> that is what is great about Steve's show...tech, tech,tech
[15:31] <+adam-slc> hamrad: agreed
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[15:31] <+slickee> Steve watch your back if your talking about Cats
[15:31] <+adam-slc> *Two thumbs up*
[15:31] <+techguybob1> Cats rule!
[15:31] <+hamrad> cat are cool
[15:31] <+ryno1> why do you like cats?
[15:32] <+techguybob1> I have a cat
[15:32] <+citizenX> two snaps and a twist! Great show
[15:32] <+hamrad> I like other peoples dogs
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[15:32] <+techguybob1> I love dogs :-)
[15:32] <+irvhomershow> dogs rule
[15:32] <+pcnovice91> dogs are cool
[15:32] <+adam-slc> lmao
[15:32] <+hamrad> dogs are loyal
[15:33] <+LarryGri> hamrad...Other peoples is my favorite breed too.
[15:33] <+brendankenny> lol
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[15:34] <+LarryGri> dogs have owners, cats have staff 
[15:34] <+techguybob1> Larry: so true!
[15:34] <+tomy-n> thts good larry
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[15:34] <+adam-slc> have you guys seen "The simple Life" spoof by Bill Gates & Jerry Seinfeld?
[15:35] <+adam-slc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBWPf1BWtkw
[15:35] <@miketechshow> no
[15:35] <+adam-slc> its halarious
[15:35] <+adam-slc> too long for tv tho
[15:35] <@miketechshow> i will check
[15:35] <+LarryGri> is that the new non advert
[15:35] <+adam-slc> they have the Shoe circus one on tv
[15:36] <+adam-slc> but the one I posted is 4 minutes long and probably wont be on tv commercials, in full atleast
[15:36] <+slickee> Should have a disclaimer about the chat - Just kidding :0
[15:36] <+LarryGri> I just started it and will watch it later. Thnaks for the link.
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[15:37] <+adam-slc> i hope they make more of these ads so I can play them in the store on the flat screen for customers to see
[15:38] <+adam-slc> as opposed to my uber long power point presentation about my services
[15:38] <+techguybob1> Adam: you should start a podcast  :-)
[15:38] <+adam-slc> bob: thanks lol, Im still working on starting the computer biz :)
[15:39] <+adam-slc> omg
[15:39] <+adam-slc> random chimp driveby
[15:39] <+techguybob1> Adam:L You seem relaly knowledgeable and have great thoughts
[15:39] <+citizenX> newbritg asked
[15:40] <+adam-slc> where's odie?
[15:40] <+citizenX> yeah I liked odie 
[15:40] <+adam-slc> bob: ty
[15:40] <+citizenX> steve is making mew want a netbook
[15:40] <+citizenX> *me
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[15:41] <+adam-slc> I believe that Asus started the netbook trend over a year ago
[15:41] <+tstn> ciao
[15:41] <+citizenX> the ipod changed mylife.. cannot imagine what a netbook would do to me
[15:41] <+adam-slc> the asus mini notebook runs a linux distro
[15:42] <+citizenX> (no laptop) never could afford one..now I can it seems
[15:42] <+tstn> Hi guys
[15:42] <+ryno1> want to buy mine barb
[15:42] <+citizenX> hello tstn
[15:42] <+citizenX> your laptop?
[15:43] <+adam-slc> heres the older asus model from last year
[15:43] <+adam-slc> http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/11/16/review_asus_eee_pc/
[15:43] <+tstn> helklo
[15:43] <+tomy-n> ryan is havin fun
[15:43] <+citizenX> who is having fun with webcam max? Ryan?
[15:43] <+adam-slc> steve: thats a great niche for local shops
[15:43] <+adam-slc> big money in it
[15:43] <+ryno1> refurbished dell inspiron 8200
[15:43] <+slickee> Ryan is going to be a hard act to follow
[15:43] <+adam-slc> and alot of refferal biz comes out of it
[15:44] <+hamrad> tablet pc?
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[15:45] <+adam-slc> alot of bigger shops are scared of notebook repair, better for us small guys
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[15:45] <+adam-slc> the bigger shops around me have no problem referring me for laptop repair too :)
[15:46] <+adam-slc> the netbooks are a ways off from replacing desktops and laptops tho, not full featured enough
[15:46] <+adam-slc> but great for web, email, rss, wifi etc tho
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[15:47] <+citizenX> yeah the video podcasts in the bathroom .. I smiled so big..bliss
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[15:48] <+hamrad> nice, ryan, use that logo on the next show
[15:48] <+citizenX> very 1990 retro graphic
[15:48] <+adam-slc> 8-bit nintendo style
[15:48] <+citizenX> stationary in the middle maybe
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[15:48] <+hamrad> ryan, what software are you using? PC or Mac?
[15:49] <+citizenX> ..and make it blue?
[15:49] <+slickee> Mike what did you say your machine was?
[15:49] <@miketechshow> Webcammax
[15:49] <@miketechshow> Dell D620
[15:49] <+hamrad> thanks
[15:49] <+slickee> thx
[15:50] <+DGMurdockIII> http://www.macrumors.com/2008/05/23/tablet-mac-coming-in-fall-2008/
[15:50] <+adam-slc> highly recommend latititudes
[15:50] <+citizenX> ahhh ..better ryan
[15:50] <+adam-slc> great notebooks
[15:50] <+adam-slc> i think they've got 12 cell batterys coming for them
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[15:51] <+hamrad> ok, what are the brands of the headsets?
[15:52] <+tomy-n> audio-technica quietpoint works on planes
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[15:52] <+DGMurdockIII> http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/upgrade/4243000.html
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[15:53] <+DGMurdockIII> macbook tablet mockup 
[15:53] <+adam-slc> alright guys & gals, I'm off!
[15:53] <+adam-slc> till nexttime!
[15:53] <+citizenX> have a good day adam
[15:54] <+techguybob1> Bye adam
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[15:56] <+hamrad> turn off the scroll, i am getting sleepy
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[15:56] <+citizenX> mike saw dark knight in imax
[15:57] <+citizenX> I liked ironman better
[15:57] <+DGMurdockIII> OLED
[15:58] <+citizenX> mike is in dad mode
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[15:58] <+techguybob1> Ryan: it's the one on the left
[15:58] <+slickee> Ryan is Mike's remote
[15:59] <+citizenX> LOL @ Steve
[15:59] <+slickee> Tech show how to use a remote
[15:59] <+citizenX> we have an rca 60 inch
[16:00] <+pcnovice91> I have 42 inch and its acting wonky
[16:00] <+DGMurdockIII> has any one used Codeblocks?
[16:01] <+ryno1> is that 720p Mike?
[16:01] <@miketechshow> 1080i
[16:01] <+ryno1> wow
[16:01] <@miketechshow> JVC 1080p
[16:01] <+pcnovice91> comcast sucks
[16:01] <+citizenX> dittos novice
[16:02] <+citizenX> I am switching
[16:02] <+citizenX> I just learned we can get fiber via att...
[16:02] <+citizenX> rumor from a friend.. have to research it
[16:02] <+pcnovice91> to what citizen ?? 
[16:02] <+DGMurdockIII> yes you can
[16:03] <+slickee> double the amount of channels or more with the converter boxes
[16:03] <+citizenX> i have had serious outtages past few days
[16:03] <+techguybob1> that godfather impresion is awesome
[16:03] <+citizenX> the oct1 250g limit is another reason to say goodbye
[16:03] <+hamrad> nice demo of webcammanx
[16:03] <+citizenX> LOL
[16:04] <+citizenX> diaper
[16:04] <+DGMurdockIII> Google Chrome
[16:04] <+citizenX> sick my schwatrzcoff on ya!
[16:04] <+brendankenny> lol
[16:04] <+techguybob1> LOL
[16:05] <+slickee> :)
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[16:05] <+techguybob1> Dana Carvey is awesome
[16:05] <+citizenX-1> ryan.. all of these are built into webcam max? 
[16:05] <+citizenX-1> did you adsd stuff
[16:05] <+citizenX-1> *add
[16:05] <+citizenX-1> graphics I mean
[16:06] <+DGMurdockIII> Google Chrome?
[16:06] <+citizenX-1> george w = "strategery"
[16:06] <+citizenX-1> I am liking chrome
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[16:07] <+citizenX-1> ..and TY Brad for getting Mike on ustream
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[16:08] <+citizenX-1> the up tabs
[16:08] <+citizenX-1> I like them too
[16:09] <+BeLieVeDxKiLLeR-1> should i get chrome?
[16:09] <+citizenX-1> yeah.. try it
[16:09] <+citizenX-1> quick install
[16:09] <+BeLieVeDxKiLLeR-1> 1/10 how good is it?
[16:09] <+citizenX-1> honest.. a 9
[16:09] <+slickee> steve gibson's podcast had nothing good to say about Chrome
[16:09] <+techguybob1> Is there a way to fix the memory leak in Forefox?
[16:09] <+BeLieVeDxKiLLeR-1> better than safari?
[16:09] <+citizenX-1> only because true beta and some features missing
[16:10] <+ryno1> really slickee?  security flaws?
[16:10] <+citizenX-1> safari is the apple IE ..yes better than safari
[16:10] <+BeLieVeDxKiLLeR-1> i have it on my xp safari
[16:10] <+BeLieVeDxKiLLeR-1> for windows
[16:10] <+slickee> Yes the one with Leo
[16:10] <+citizenX-1> (getting tired of sir gibson)
[16:10] <+ryno1> does Chrome have security flaws slickee?
[16:11] <+citizenX-1> no .. sandboxed.. each tab... wont touch your HD
[16:11] <+citizenX-1> ^^ chrome
[16:11] <+citizenX-1> kinda virtual like
[16:11] <+slickee> he said so 
[16:11] <+citizenX-1> and the incognito surfing... well yeah there is that too
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[16:11] <+citizenX-1> cannot get him to try something knew .. that carey
[16:12] <+citizenX-1> refuses to run knoppix.. would rather slave the drive
[16:12] <+citizenX-1> :whatever:
[16:12] <+techguybob1> I use everyhting
[16:12] <+citizenX-1> remove beers before the pic?
[16:12] <+slickee> don't bring up Vista or Zonealarm or his show comes to a halt
[16:13] <+DGMurdockIII> http://4xsecurityteam.blogspot.com/2008/09/dos-vulnerability-hits-googles-chrome.html
[16:13] <+ryno1> He doesn't like Vista?
[16:13] <+DGMurdockIII> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1843
[16:13] <+citizenX-1> slickee.. carey reccom zone alarm to a call in a few weeks ago.. I almost died laughing
[16:13] <+DGMurdockIII> Google Chrome vulnerable to carpet-bombing flaw
[16:13] <+techguybob1> Citizen: LOL
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[16:13] <+slickee> :)
[16:14] <+ryno1> wow, you serious CitizenX?
[16:14] <+citizenX-1> i am
[16:14] <+techguybob1> Didn't they fix that carpet bombing flaw?
[16:14] <+citizenX-1> I teased him about it
[16:14] <+citizenX-1> we are buddies.. its all good
[16:15] <+slickee> Chrome changed their EULA original said everything you do belongs to us
[16:15] <+hamrad> it even seems better
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[16:15] <+citizenX-1> all your surfs belong to us, slickee?
[16:15] <+techguybob1> LOL Citizen
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[16:16] <+DGMurdockIII> 10 Myths about Google Chrome Browser
[16:16] <+DGMurdockIII> http://profy.com/2008/09/05/10-myths-about-google-chrome-browser/
[16:16] <+hamrad> get Saitek
[16:16] <+citizenX-1> honestly.. that is a given with Google.. always been all up in your bidnez
[16:16] <+citizenX-1> but wont give it up like AOL did
[16:16] <+ryno1> I use it at work
[16:16] <+citizenX-1> :clueless:
[16:17] <+DGMurdockIII> i now whatit is
[16:17] <+DGMurdockIII> http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/security_flaw_in_google_chrome.php
[16:17] <+techguybob1> I know a little about it
[16:17] <+ryno1> I firewall uses wins for VPN dns name resolution
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[16:18] <+ryno1> I=my
[16:19] <+DGMurdockIII> http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/6367 google chrome explote
[16:19] <+slickee> Tandy
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[16:20] <+hamrad> TRS-80 Model I
[16:20] <+citizenX-1> amiga!
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[16:21] <+citizenX-1> LOL @ Dorothy
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[16:21] <+citizenX-1> ..damn sorry I missed it
[16:21] <+citizenX-1> blame comcast.. 
[16:21] <+techguybob1> I hated the cassette tapes
[16:21] <+citizenX-1> I think I have only missed like 3 MTS shows
[16:21] <+citizenX-1> ..figuresd
[16:21] <+citizenX-1> *figures
[16:22] <+citizenX-1> the more you know.. LOL
[16:22] <+DGMurdockIII> http://www.amiga.com/ 
[16:22] <+citizenX-1> the trauma
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[16:22] <+techguybob1> MIke: Forgive the cat
[16:23] <+citizenX-1> oh but now we have ff restore session... I LOVE that feature... 
[16:23] <+hamrad> good post show, show
[16:23] <+tomy-n> night, great show
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[16:23] <+DGMurdockIII> http://www.commodoregaming.com/us-en/newHp.aspx
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[16:23] <@podnutzdaily> thank you guys!
[16:23] <+citizenX-1> yes great show
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[16:23] <+slickee> good show - Nite to all and to all a goodnight
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[16:24] <+citizenX-1> off to play!
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